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Thanks. I am a retired wedding photographer. I was using a bit of photoshop and light room to edit my photos in the past but a couple of years ago I discovered, like you how good photos had become.If I was still doing weddings I would consider photos is good enough and very intuitive to use. I have tested it on many of my old files.cheers Geoff

It's already been time to ditch Adobe ever since they started shoving their Creative Cloud SaaS ScaM up their customer's arses.

Good review, Apple Photo is great on my Ipad Pro - use it all the time go get fast quick edits for my Social's and to send to friends and family.

I’ve had the grid show up in iPhone, Canon raw and even in negative scans. Pretty. Bad.

Bloody hell. EVERYTHING you said was so relatable. I literally just drive around sometimes and stop and take a shot and then move on. Some days I go out, take a few pics quickly that Im happy with, and then bugger off home 🤣🤣

Great review, as usual. Sounds like both Excire and Peakto do not allow re-organziation of the folder structure, including moving files to other folders or adding/deleting folders. These functions are critical in library organization, especially with the ability to find and group pictures that these program allow. If it is true, that these functions are not available, how could you work around this deficit and re-organize your libraries.

What about Corel?

Can we demand to …cease Ai? Or else be… laid off by Ai, then human extinction? Or suffer an… Ai new world order? With swell robotics everywhere, …Ai jobloss is the top worry. Anyone else feel the same?

Awesome video mate. Switching all my production to a Mac and didn't want to pay the subscription to Adobe and no standalone options for Lightroom on Silicon. This looks spot-on for what I need..... and I'll just re-use my Davinci Resolve licence for video. Finally, soon I'll be using a machine that won't deafen me with crazy fan noise every time I render - and as a bonus, I'll be able to collab on music with my mate on Logic! Keep up the great videos.

Other big questions headed for a “yes” answer: Will a class action lawsuit be launched by Adobe customers? Should a class action lawsuit be launched against Adobe by its shareholders, for breach of fiduciary duty?

I have Adobe pirated and had no way to put my money to a scum. The main problem for me is that After Effects has no competition out of the box. Resolve was designed for VFX as an alternative to Nuke and some plugins are exclusive to After Effects and Premiere Pro. I'm glad the alternatives and OFX plugins are becoming popular.

You have found faults that I have not experienced processing Sony files.

Will you update this for v 2024.5 which seems to have fixed much of this?

DUDE; are you PAID from Adobe?? Yes you are!

My ears HURTS when you say Adobe Lightroom is REFINED ... ROFL. They hack same old code, adding stuff like car industry try to keep old model in stable adding all sorts of plastic cladding, alloys, decals, like one would add saddle to a cow.

9:26 - viable alternative to Lightroom? Are you serious?! Lightroom was not good for decade. Afte their 1st process update they screwed everything. But we had no alternative. Today there is. Same task same feature set in one app. Not only that, but MORE, BETTER, FASTER with more control. I know the pain, being user for 12 years, how impossible is to see alternative, and how painful is to ditch the cumbersomeness of Adobe and accept you can achieve the same faster and better. We were with Adobe that stuff must be complicated. Lightroom is slow, lacking, coarse, old, outdated, with ton's of problems under the hood.

What a great review! Thank you for doing it I have had the nik collection probably as long as I have had Photoshop, but it looks like the Google version I currently have no longer works with Photoshop.... When I try to launch it it fails Is it worth The price of upgrade.... Definitely given me food for thought and there is currently 20% off this week.

I don't care about their scandals ... but: - I had credit card canceled and replaced by MasterCard since Adobe had data breach. - I paid 10.000 USD for literally the same software that has the same bugs for decade+ - I was fed with their hacks and workarounds they suggest and officially introduce, so the software is still going - I can't stand lack of performance from Adobe software, bugs, crashings, and fact they just flock same old code once more - they do not innovate but rather buy innovative pieces of software or solutions and than they try to comform that into their ecosystem, mostly ruining original performance and stability - their constant subtle workflow changing under the hood and fact the workflow is unbelievable cumbersome compared to competition. - did I mention they do not innovate? They just add here and there another "on button" or lately "ai" solution that fits less demanding - they are oriented toward revenue and so they try to attract abundance number of consumers, rahter to fix problems that are important for real users. The software itself is only byproduct for them, a happy coincidence. They don't care for customers. - they add gimmick half baked add-ons and improvements, neglecting professionals - they are greedy, earning BILLIONS of dollars annually yet they can't fix basic issues that are there for decade - and more: like support is there only if you have truble with payment. All other are incompetent or non-existent. - SUBSCRIPTION is NEEDED even for opening past projects years later. FUCK! I returned to edit one project in Premire Pro 24, after leaving software in 2019 ... having it installed legally, officially, on totally new, very potent computer with latest everything. The experience of editing was so awfull I can't remember worse, even when I edited with cracked Premiere Pro 2.0 on Single core CELERON with 2GB of ram and slow IDE HDD back in 2004. Crashing, slow, lacking, ... unbelievable. And I hate they push software to schools, early locking people in.

Yeah lets just ditch adobe.

I hate any editor that requires importing, i use Bridge

The only time i took and edited some iphone raws they were underexposed 2 stops from what i can see on the phone, wtf is happening? I think Photos is ok if you edit a single image though

Apple photos is super fast and offers most things, but it needs to create a massive database, the noise reduction isn't that great, and it's still rather difficult to copy settings from one photo to many photos. For me, DXO is my editor. Still, Apple Photos is free. Also, I personally like Pages.

Look you up once a year when re registering the toys - thanks for the updates 😊

I’m late to the Affinity game (June 2024 universal license 50% sale drew me in) and mostly focusing on Designer. However, your Photo comments resonated with what I’m finding in Designer too (still enjoying the learning process though). Also, thank for pointing out the 360 photo function in Photo. I need to try that out. Finally, I LOL-ed at your various pointed similes. Thanks for this vid.

You know when i ditched adobe the day I moved to windows 10 byeby Adobe I got tired of adobe updates failing to update too so I said I'm done bye

Adobe signed a deal with the devil.(Microsoft) Corel does the same things as Adobe without The high cost.

YES. Next question?

IMO one of the other areas DxO is the absolute best at is perspective control. I shoot a lot of architecture and DxO ViewPoint has saved shots Lightroom really struggled with.

Light bulb moment! We're talking a lot here about features we just can't live without. We all DID live without them back when. When tool y hadn't been developed yet, we managed just fine with tool X. (Yes, I can think of some exceptions, but very few.)

I confess I use it a lot. last week I was in a market place on the Ile de Ré off the west coast of France. A young guy was selling moody 'noir' photos of scenes around the island so I decided to see what I could do, simply with an iPhone and Photos. I think I managed something pretty close thanks to that underrated Photos app. Thanks for the detailed review - lost there I didn't know.

I’m a fellow cynical bastard who has probably spent more money trying to replace Lightroom and to a lesser extent Photoshop than maintaining my Adobe photographer subscription only to ultimately stay with Adobe.

Here's my take... AI tools are just that... another set of tools. How you use them and how much is up to the individual. I chose to become a photographer because I loved how a medium captured the real world and preserved it in a 2 dimensional space. If you start to get away from how the real world looked at time of capture, I think it ceases to be photography, and more art and impressionism. It gets complicated however, are sky replacements in real estate photography ok? or day to twilight conversions? All interesting discussions. But we are an unregulated industry, in techniques, pay, employment, quantifications... don't think anything is going to change soon. I wouldn't reccomend to anyone these days to do it as your primary source of income, unless you have a guaranteed client base or are employed by an organisation. Freelance photography in all genres is an oversaturated market, with a shrinking demand base

think a more juicy debate is, what constitutes a "real photographer"! 😂😂

I use only cracked version. I recommend all of you to do it

Personally, l ditched Adobe in 2013 when they launched their subscription only policy. Prior to Adobe, l used CorelDraw which l want back to with version X6. Esp as Corel were offering upgrade pricing to anyone using just about any Adobe product. Then Corel jacked up their prices, introduced subscription and introduced new versions more rapidly. Then l saw Affinity Designer in 2015. At just £29.99, it was worth it to be curious. And I'm glad curiosity got the better of me as I have invested heavily in Affinity and have not looked back. I just hope Canva realises the huge amounts of trust and goodwill they have right now and don't squander it.

*I totally disagree about Adobe Lightroom. For many years I work for Capture One Pro and for DxO Photolab.* After the introduction of AI masks in Capture One Pro - I do not see what he loses to Lightroom. Capture One's color algorithms have always been one step ahead of Lightroom. And now the AI masks are not inferior. In any case, if you compare price and quality, convenience, functionality, then Capture One Pro is the leader. Most likely, the problem is that you are used to Adobe products and have not banned yourself from working in them. You did not put an end to this issue. If you banned and started working only in alternative products and this would happen at least a year, then 1) you would learn to do everything there, 2) you would not be able to return to Adobe products anymore. I made such a transition, my habits and skills were rebuilt. And now I can't look at Adobe products anymore. And my savings were thousands of dollars over the years.

Paypal...i never used it again. Vote with your dollar, teach them a lesson.

I remember they brought some of the features into photos after discontinuing Aperture but it does seem like they've built on it since then. I'm still pretty well embedded in Lightroom but I feel like they could really make some market share with Adobe's AI issues and subscription prices if they actually put out any marketing.

Good information! I'm jumping ship for a few reasons. Firstly, is the AI scanning / file upload process that I was unaware of. I have nothing to hide but hate the idea of my files being uploaded, even if temporarily, without a clear message indicating that it's occurring. I've also been looking for a less bloated alternative for basic photo editing. I can use CC for free through the company I work for, so cost isn't a factor. Secondly, I'd rather patronize another company as long as their software gets the job done. Having recently tried Affinity Photo 2.5, for me it does just that. It has what I need as an amateur photographer who isn't interested in all the bells and whistles Adobe has to offer. And the way I see it, if we want true competition, we need to support the smaller companies so they can afford to compete on features. If course, a business built on Adobe's products can't just up and jump ship, but for those like me, I think there are good alternatives. Lastly, Adobe's attitude with its licensing, shady anti-consumer practices, and bloated buggy software has tipped me over the edge. Also, Bridge, Camera Raw, Lightroom and Photoshop could have all been condensed into 2 products at most rather than having features that overlap and the quirks and awkwardness of having these products try to work together.

So ALL that ranting about Adobe and you're still going to stick with them????

...Adobe is (probably) the only AI generative service that licenses its training data. At least give them that. The others just scrape the Internet copying everything, copyrighted or not.

I have made the point that the camera is self has a lot of AI in it. That's not to say we should just be cutting our images to bits but the actual camera itself has many AI features especially modern Mirrorless cameras auto detect auto subject detection. They are AI. I could name another couple of processes turning a coloured image into black-and-white that is AI.... I'm not saying you should hack your images to bits with the clone tools, but all I'm saying is AI does exist in the camera itself. And I do believe there are some positive uses for AI images. I remember doing a wedding once and a young person was getting married but their mother sadly was in an old peoples home with dementia. I was able to take a photograph of her and place her in just one photo in the wedding scene it meant the world to the person this was a positive use of AI and no one had a problem with it because that person had a large emotional attachment in that person's life. Sometimes I have removed broken teeth from photos because the people felt so conscious they didn't want to smile. There are positive uses of AI. It's not bad and I do think you need to be mindful of what you're doing but I don't throw the good bits of it out, not at all but that's just me and I am a professional photographer but we are also Artist as well and Photography is art. Does that mean I hack all my images to bits with the AI tools? No it doesn't just in certain situations. It is okay.

Where has your channel been all my life? This is the most watchable and on-point analysis of the current Adobe fiasco that I've found. I do think that Adobe's virtual monopoly could weaken over the next few years. For one, there's beginning to be competition. Affinity and ON1 (of which I have a much higher opinion than you do) are both at about the same level of maturity, which is to say that they're passing the watershed where they're solidly usable. (Although I have used ON1 for years because its tools work for me and Lightroom's just aren't that great.) I'm very hopeful about DaVinci and and its Fairlight component, which I have just started learning. Affinity is at V2.5, the same version where Photoshop sat when I first starting learning it. Photoshop is at V25. It has accumulated that many iterartions of sometimes clever tools and flabby bloat. Affinity and ON1 will continue to improve while Photoshop and Lightroom continue to deteriorate. While you can't get a job in visual arts today without Adobe skills, tomorrow, there will be no jobs. The entire industry will be gig work. (Not absolutely, but you get the idea.) That fragmentation will mean that hetrogenious environments will be the norm.

I already ditched Adobe. After many many years.

First class effort.

making the excuse that all corporations are evil is a mistake. some companies do behave themselves better than other. we should be punishing the worse ones as best we can by shaming them and boycotting them as best we can.

Yes there is better alternative and it is called Photoshop. The secret is to use user friendly version and we all know which version is user friendly

The head-teacher at my art school insisted we use adobe products, then we had a guest star teacher, this superstar-illustrator who had worked for all the big companies who shocked her when he told us he doesn't give a shit what we use as long as it can export to tiff. The internet at the school also had a tendancie to not work during the first hour in the morning for some reason, and thus we couldn't launch any adobe products because you need internet a internet connection to use that stuff. Thankfully the computers also had software such as Krita installed on it.

Love the blunt talk. We need more of this.

As a working pro i mostly moved to C1 Pro for my still work back in 2016, and my video work to DaVinci in 2012. I kept my sub going for only specific use cases. So yeah… it’s finally time to let go of Adobe, and that’s having used them since 1993.